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Just letting you all know

that the class representative we have sent out an email blast reminding students of the “no selling” policy among other things going on in class. I think she did a good job of explaining it. Anyway, 1/4 of the class room out of 20 gave her a hard time. Including the Party Lite girl. Of course the mlm girl acted like a ditz and said “I wasn’t selling to anyone yet” I saw her talk to 4 other class mates, during a break, about it and they all looked stunned by the email that was sent. So it looks like to me she got 4 other people behind her. I was somewhat surprise by that. Anyway, since then, things have calmed down.

People in class are more mindful. I was amazed at the rucus the mlm girl was causing over that email. I remained annomynous about the whole deal so she still has no clue I was part of that email. I’m nice to everyone. It was the way we spoke to her that calmed her down. We reminded her that she was doing a good thing going to massage school. It was amazing how nice she was to me today for the first time in weeks. Just normal nice, no circles or network marketing talk. I am aware that she may slip up again some day as long as she is still in an mlm. She is a nice person and not a bad one, just clue less to the brain washing ways of mlm’s. I guess it should not be surprising to me that she got 4 other people behind her biz. They don’t know what they don’t know. At least this has been stoppped now, before it got worse.

Wasted 7 years of my life in Amway

I started in Amway in 1997, in my mid-20s…. the usual promises were made by upline sponsors, and the (Piece Of Work) Emeralds I got stuck with.. The drove off more people than average.. For the next 7 years (and two groups later), I only had a lot of money out and I didn’t even make it to the 2500 level (got close), but certainly bought a lot of “business materials” to the tune of 7000 per year. That’s what your “successful upline” wants you to do, ,so they can pad their own pockets with your hard earned income you make on your “real job”.

I really can’t buy a lot of what the OP is peddling, but can only draw from my own experiences from it (some are on the site I posted up top), but wanted to put out one or two positives, and the same amount of negatives…

1) Yes, you get totally consumed with the process…. especially early on… You become a gnome who only associates with “like minded people” and not “dream stealers”… those one’s who are smart enough to know that you’re getting sold a bill of goods.
To “sell out” in the process, I gave up *almost* all of my extracurricular activities, with the exception of bowling and card playing, thinking I could find “prospects” at those locations… Boy, was I wrong, lol. In addition, I let myself go, physically. I gained 70# ( Since I recovered my sense, I’ve lost all of that spare tire, and am in pretty good shape after all this).

I tend to be better in social circles (as I was somewhat more introverted before I started), and dont’ have a problem meeting new people anymore. At least when I meet these new people, I don’t have an ulterior motive anymore. I don’t carry tapes in my pocket anymore.

When I left, the biz for good in 1995, I really kept in touch with no one there, and only one person bothered to contact me after the fact. Figures, huh? I’m actually much more balanced now… lol

In addition

1. Launch a complaint with the BBB.(Some MLMs have tried to comply with BBB complaints).
2. You can even call your local DA’s office. I am pretty sure most of these fraudulent businesses will hate to get a phone call from a DA’s office.

If you have any automatic debits on your accounts or on your credit cards – cancel them immediately

Instruct your bank and credit cards to be on the lookout for fraudulent attempts to access your accounts.

Send a certified mail to the registered place of business for this company addressed to the registered agent for the company and instruct them that you have terminated the agreement and the day and date and time you did so.

Keep copies of everything. And keep precise notes of any phone calls.

You can call whatever version of the State Corporation Commission

that your state has and find out what to do. Also, send them snail mail, return receipt requested so they know you can prove they’ve received it. If you have to send it priority to get it there in time, take that into consideration.

I’d also verify the email address and send them the same email every 5 minutes. Some mailers will let you set up a system to do that. That’s one place where being a geek is an advantage becuase it’s not hard to write a program that can do that.

Any ex-Ameriplanners here?

I have been trying to quit since the 16th. I called and when I finally got through they said it had to be written and I could send them an e-mail. I did that, never heard back and still had access to their stuff. When I called back they said that did not have me as pending withdrawl. I have sent several more e-mails and now I can’t get back through on the phone. I still have their stuff. They are going to charge me the infamous broker fee again too. How in the heck do I get out of this?! Has anyone had any experiences with this? ANy info would be helpful. THanks so much!

I’m sorry I didn’t explain myself

I agree with you entirely that very, very few (less than 1%) even breakeven in MLM, let alone make some decent money. This is something that, in my experience, no one is ever told in the recruitment process. Certainly MLM is not the way to a comfortable retirement

I am a little confused –

you say “while it is true..” – what do you base this comment upon? The vast majority of people who retire comfortably do so from JOBS, not from MLMs. Where did you get your data from?

Most people I know that have a JOB are just over broke!

Most people I know in MLM are the 99% that are not making a fortune. I think loving what you do, getting a great education, & having a really balanced life make all of us successful. I know alot of people that make really good money but do not have time freedom & spend accordly to their income and then when there are cutbacks, layoffs, they are not prepared. Alot of us live paycheck to paycheckthesedays, if we make an awesome income it takes an awesome income each week just to pay our bills. We need to teach young children LIFE 101 in early stages of life. There are great jobs out there in anything you do.

He said that she will be also be able to give them more

I simply told him that the best things in life can’t be bought, which is how he was brought up. I was a stay at home mom, and I am so thankful that we were able to live on one paycheck. It’s not always easy for families to do that, but I’d say to anyone spend as mich time with your kids as you can. They grow up before you know it. I think MLMs will really regret the time they give up with their kids when they finally figure out that they’re chasing a dream that doesn’t come true. That goes for dads as well as moms.

Sorry everyone about the double post. I lost the first e-mail before I was done. I have a laptop and sometimes I move the curser and lose what I was doing. This is the first time I ever hit the ‘send’ and didn’t know it. The second post, if not read, just says that not spending time with your kids reminds me of the song Cats in the Cradle by Harry Chapin and there’s a youtube web site to hear the song.


I don’t think there is is anything more important than spending time with your kids. That’s something money just cannot buy!
Reading this post reminded me of the woman of my son’s upline that has two little kids and leaves them a lot to do the Quixtar stuff (even went to weekend conferences two years in a row even though her son’s birthday was the same weekend). I made that comment to my son and he says that’s so she can have more time with them later. My reply was she will never get back the time she’s losing now. This also reminds me of the song “Cats in the Cradle” by Harry Chapin.

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